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Joyce Carol Oates + Ted Leo (Ep. 5)

Joyce Carol Oates is a legend. She is the author of 58 novels, as well as plays, criticism, and short story and poet collections. She reads "Deceit," from Black Dahlia & White Rose, about a mother struggling to respond to allegations of abuse made about her teenage daughter.

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Photo by Marion Ettinger

Ted Leo is a badass songwriter, a podcaster, and a legendarily prolific  and committed performer. His recent collaborations with Aimee Mann include their band The Both and the podcast The Art of Process. Ted plays a song called "Deceit," and reflects on his own history of abuse.

 

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Photo by Angel Ceballos